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Great article. Who was the artist responsible for the very striking graphic?
The important thing IMHO is to rethink what a national or ethnonationalist project would entail under real-world conditions. There was an America before there was a United States. The distinction between those who identify as Americans and those who define themselves as US citizens is critical. People have choices to make: direct loyalty to the state and to fellow citizens or to the nation (however defined).
Furthermore, we all need to remember that modern nationalism was in most instances a top-down attempt to mobilise the masses and deploy them to the advantage of the elites of various nation-states. The situation today is very different. North American whites can only form a self-conscious bloc in defiance of the elite and many, if not most, BIPOC fellow-citizens. Ethno-nationalist or tribalist movements will have to develop in opposition to the state and to the corporate funded and state-aligned 'civil society'. Given the fact that citizenship is increasingly a formality, civic nationalism is a sick joke and the regime's institutions haemorrhaging whatever legitimacy they might once have had, there will be opportunities aplenty in the years ahead.
Yes, I believe the great task is to get whites to think as a race/vanguard/their own interest group again. A good way is as you said, to identify as American, not a hyphenated American or US citizen, but American in the since that you are white and share blood with the founders of the US.
I'd suggest that there needs to be a degree of fungibility. Not all white North Americans share ancestry with the descendants of the founders. And nations/tribes do not require shared values...a shared condition, a degree of cohesion and mutual concern and a common fate are enough.
Definitional games are a potential Achilles' heel. The way around it is IMO fairly simple: define the constituency by way of the existing laws on affirmative action/Civil Rights. This establishes the shared condition of whites as whites...the one group that is used as a foil for the legal, political and social aggression if the regime and its supporters. It focuses attention on the villains and fortifies the awareness amongst whites that their wellbeing is systematically deprioritised by the regime. It makes it easier to make the regime's ideas and policies contestable. Just an idea.
And white Americans do form a nation of their own, or a collection of related, sub-national ethnies. There is no need to settle all questions ideologically or from first principles. A pragmatic approach (using Civil Rights and equity policy as the basis for defining white identity) beats an ideological one any day.
My only issue with this is the Civil Rights Act which is the defacto new constitution of the country. It’s made to be used against whites and the source of most of our problems today. I don’t see things turning in our favor until it’s done away with.
In regards of who’s in and who’s out of the group, I’m not attached to keeping it rigid founding American stock only. Actually think there will have to be some kind of alliance that extends over racial lines in order to win.
I was not suggesting that you or anyone else should endorse or support the Civil Rights Act, merely use the reality that it has created to the advantage of the dissenters and dissidents. The Civil Rights Act and the current equity agenda can be used against the regime very easily...make them own the deprioritisation of whites. A strategic definition of national/tribal identity that works is better than a doctrinal one that is less effective at building awareness.
Transracial co-operation is essential. Splitting the BIPOC constituencies is a prerequisite for success. Also, North American whites are fated to live in an ethnically pluralist continent...there is no other way. Goodwill, where it is genuine, is an intrinsic good. It is also useful to disrupt the narrative that advocacy for whites is malicious or extremist.
Glad to say I am in a place where this is already rolling. As part of the Evangelical Protestant tribe, I'm happy to be where a uniquely Reformed ethnogenesis is taking place in Moscow, ID. Hundreds are moving out here, intermarrying, having lots of white children (5, 6, 7 kids being common) , starting businesses, starting various churches (regardless of what reports would have you believe of it all being centralized on one particular church), and buying lots of property. There is so much more work to be done but I feel like we are a few steps ahead of many other Christian church communities around the nation.
Very nice. I’ve also heard of good things happening in Idaho. The right also argues over the rural vs urban right and that’s not the argument to have. You need to be getting to where your people are.
You've hit the nail on the head here, and it's something I've been thinking about a great deal as well: the nation-state is dead, and the United States of America is not worth our loyalty.
When I think about the United States of America, I don't see it as a country run by and for the benefit of my people (Anglo-Americans, Euro-Americans, Heritage Americans).
Instead, I see a cosmopolitan, trans-national, banking/financial/media/cultural elite that despises my people, our history, symbols, etc. This elite runs the United States of America, and preaches values of "equality" and "anti-racism" and universalism that I find despicable as well as transparently weaponized against our Folk.
But for all intents and purposes, this elite *is* the United States of America (the Cathedral, Deep State, Regime on the Potomac, etc.). They define what is right and wrong, and the atomized, propagandized, nihilistic cultural wasteland of a "society" they preside over generally goes along with it.
It would be very nice if I could contrast this cosmopolitan elite with the American people--but as you point out, there isn't a meaningful American people, either. Neo-Ciceronian Times did a great piece about Blue America and Red America as two rival ethnic groups (in essence), but as you also get into, the problem with Red America is how many of them fail to really offer a meaningful alternative, and in any case what is there to unite us all?
Conservatives have conserved nothing, and for the most part they're simply liberals with a time lag. Many of them are perfectly fine with the idea of "All men are created equal" and probably view the poem on the Statue of Liberty as an inspiration instead of the disgusting piece of subversive propaganda for the Mother of Exiles that it is.
With all of that said, I think we need to spite our enemies by flourishing anyway. We need to build a thriving subculture of philosophical, artistic, and creative genius that will percolate into social ferment.
We need to make friends, mentor people, and build our own small war-bands. I've repeatedly found myself in the position of providing life advice to friends, other men who have been struggling to become men in this wasteland of a culture. There is so much opportunity out there for us to teach lost and struggling would-be-men how to seek excellence by embracing responsibility and struggling toward meaning (and I daresay this is a very Aryan mythological theme--think of Odin and his brothers creating the world from the body of Ymir).
Anyway, tons to think about and discuss here. Thank you so much for an excellent post.
Yes, it comes down to becoming responsible for ourselves. Much of our culture has been lost or corrupted. Obviously, honor what little we remember, but we must move towards making a new foundation.
Though this article is a year old, what I have to day holds just as true then as it does now:
Join Patriot Front. The nation lives on in the hearts of those who are willing to fight and carry on the torch. Even in the worst case scenario, ourselves and our posterity will live on and that is all we will really need in the end.
Featured your piece in this weekend's Saturday Commentary and Review
https://niccolo.substack.com/p/saturday-commentary-and-review-100
Great article. Who was the artist responsible for the very striking graphic?
The important thing IMHO is to rethink what a national or ethnonationalist project would entail under real-world conditions. There was an America before there was a United States. The distinction between those who identify as Americans and those who define themselves as US citizens is critical. People have choices to make: direct loyalty to the state and to fellow citizens or to the nation (however defined).
Furthermore, we all need to remember that modern nationalism was in most instances a top-down attempt to mobilise the masses and deploy them to the advantage of the elites of various nation-states. The situation today is very different. North American whites can only form a self-conscious bloc in defiance of the elite and many, if not most, BIPOC fellow-citizens. Ethno-nationalist or tribalist movements will have to develop in opposition to the state and to the corporate funded and state-aligned 'civil society'. Given the fact that citizenship is increasingly a formality, civic nationalism is a sick joke and the regime's institutions haemorrhaging whatever legitimacy they might once have had, there will be opportunities aplenty in the years ahead.
Thank you. Image is creation of AI.
Yes, I believe the great task is to get whites to think as a race/vanguard/their own interest group again. A good way is as you said, to identify as American, not a hyphenated American or US citizen, but American in the since that you are white and share blood with the founders of the US.
I'd suggest that there needs to be a degree of fungibility. Not all white North Americans share ancestry with the descendants of the founders. And nations/tribes do not require shared values...a shared condition, a degree of cohesion and mutual concern and a common fate are enough.
Definitional games are a potential Achilles' heel. The way around it is IMO fairly simple: define the constituency by way of the existing laws on affirmative action/Civil Rights. This establishes the shared condition of whites as whites...the one group that is used as a foil for the legal, political and social aggression if the regime and its supporters. It focuses attention on the villains and fortifies the awareness amongst whites that their wellbeing is systematically deprioritised by the regime. It makes it easier to make the regime's ideas and policies contestable. Just an idea.
And white Americans do form a nation of their own, or a collection of related, sub-national ethnies. There is no need to settle all questions ideologically or from first principles. A pragmatic approach (using Civil Rights and equity policy as the basis for defining white identity) beats an ideological one any day.
My only issue with this is the Civil Rights Act which is the defacto new constitution of the country. It’s made to be used against whites and the source of most of our problems today. I don’t see things turning in our favor until it’s done away with.
In regards of who’s in and who’s out of the group, I’m not attached to keeping it rigid founding American stock only. Actually think there will have to be some kind of alliance that extends over racial lines in order to win.
I was not suggesting that you or anyone else should endorse or support the Civil Rights Act, merely use the reality that it has created to the advantage of the dissenters and dissidents. The Civil Rights Act and the current equity agenda can be used against the regime very easily...make them own the deprioritisation of whites. A strategic definition of national/tribal identity that works is better than a doctrinal one that is less effective at building awareness.
Transracial co-operation is essential. Splitting the BIPOC constituencies is a prerequisite for success. Also, North American whites are fated to live in an ethnically pluralist continent...there is no other way. Goodwill, where it is genuine, is an intrinsic good. It is also useful to disrupt the narrative that advocacy for whites is malicious or extremist.
Glad to say I am in a place where this is already rolling. As part of the Evangelical Protestant tribe, I'm happy to be where a uniquely Reformed ethnogenesis is taking place in Moscow, ID. Hundreds are moving out here, intermarrying, having lots of white children (5, 6, 7 kids being common) , starting businesses, starting various churches (regardless of what reports would have you believe of it all being centralized on one particular church), and buying lots of property. There is so much more work to be done but I feel like we are a few steps ahead of many other Christian church communities around the nation.
Very nice. I’ve also heard of good things happening in Idaho. The right also argues over the rural vs urban right and that’s not the argument to have. You need to be getting to where your people are.
You've hit the nail on the head here, and it's something I've been thinking about a great deal as well: the nation-state is dead, and the United States of America is not worth our loyalty.
When I think about the United States of America, I don't see it as a country run by and for the benefit of my people (Anglo-Americans, Euro-Americans, Heritage Americans).
Instead, I see a cosmopolitan, trans-national, banking/financial/media/cultural elite that despises my people, our history, symbols, etc. This elite runs the United States of America, and preaches values of "equality" and "anti-racism" and universalism that I find despicable as well as transparently weaponized against our Folk.
But for all intents and purposes, this elite *is* the United States of America (the Cathedral, Deep State, Regime on the Potomac, etc.). They define what is right and wrong, and the atomized, propagandized, nihilistic cultural wasteland of a "society" they preside over generally goes along with it.
It would be very nice if I could contrast this cosmopolitan elite with the American people--but as you point out, there isn't a meaningful American people, either. Neo-Ciceronian Times did a great piece about Blue America and Red America as two rival ethnic groups (in essence), but as you also get into, the problem with Red America is how many of them fail to really offer a meaningful alternative, and in any case what is there to unite us all?
Conservatives have conserved nothing, and for the most part they're simply liberals with a time lag. Many of them are perfectly fine with the idea of "All men are created equal" and probably view the poem on the Statue of Liberty as an inspiration instead of the disgusting piece of subversive propaganda for the Mother of Exiles that it is.
With all of that said, I think we need to spite our enemies by flourishing anyway. We need to build a thriving subculture of philosophical, artistic, and creative genius that will percolate into social ferment.
We need to make friends, mentor people, and build our own small war-bands. I've repeatedly found myself in the position of providing life advice to friends, other men who have been struggling to become men in this wasteland of a culture. There is so much opportunity out there for us to teach lost and struggling would-be-men how to seek excellence by embracing responsibility and struggling toward meaning (and I daresay this is a very Aryan mythological theme--think of Odin and his brothers creating the world from the body of Ymir).
Anyway, tons to think about and discuss here. Thank you so much for an excellent post.
Yes, it comes down to becoming responsible for ourselves. Much of our culture has been lost or corrupted. Obviously, honor what little we remember, but we must move towards making a new foundation.
I will read.
I sure am glad I have individual rights, including property rights. Otherwise, I'd be real lonely.
Though this article is a year old, what I have to day holds just as true then as it does now:
Join Patriot Front. The nation lives on in the hearts of those who are willing to fight and carry on the torch. Even in the worst case scenario, ourselves and our posterity will live on and that is all we will really need in the end.
To hell with gay pessimism.